User talk:CavalierTunes

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Welcome
Hi, welcome to Mortal Kombat Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Blaze page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Smoke. (Talk) 10:30, June 28, 2010

RE:72.199.44.244
I warned him about removing content from your page. As it was not an obvious attempt at vandalism (he didn't insult you or anything; he was removing the stuff you said about him on your page), I did not block him. For future reference, please take that discussion to either his talk page, or the article's talk page. Do not continuously revert edits on the article; it is disruptive. For now, I have protected the article from any further edits.  Smoke Sound off! 17:20, July 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for protecting the article and for warning him. However, I do believe his actions were vandalism, he removed the stuff on my page before I posted anything about him there. I posted all of that as a reaction to his vandalism. And, I would've posted it on either my talk page or the Sareena talk page (in fact, read my initial "post," where I encourage him to reply on my talk page), except that I was unsure he knew how to use a talk page (since I had left him a message on his own talk page). I was sure he'd see the post on my userpage, because he had already vandalized it twice. CavalierTunes 17:29, July 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * OK. Well, if he does it again after I've warned him, I'll block him. It would appear that he doesn't know how to use a talk page.  Smoke Sound off! 17:31, July 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you. CavalierTunes 17:35, July 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Apologies for the delay. He is now blocked.  Smoke Sound off! 02:56, July 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Much appreciated, Smoke! :) --<font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#ff6000">C <font color="#fd6500">a <font color="#fb6b00">v <font color="#f96700">a <font color="#f77600">l <font color="#f57b00">i <font color="#f28100">e <font color="#f08600">r <font color="#ee8c00">T <font color="#ec9100">u <font color="#ea9700">n <font color="#e89c00">e <font color="#e6a200">s  <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#e4a700">t <font color="#e2ad00">a <font color="#e0b200">l <font color="#ddb800">k <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#dbbd00">t <font color="#d9c300">h <font color="#d7c800">e <font color="#d5ce00">S <font color="#d3d300">u <font color="#d1d900">b <font color="#cfde00">w <font color="#cde400">a <font color="#cbe900">y <font color="#c8ef00">W <font color="#c6f400">a <font color="#c4fa00">l <font color="#c2ff00">l 02:59, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Edits to Sareena and my UserPage
moved from: CavalierTunes: UserPage

User:72.199.44.244 has repeatedly edited the Sareena page with false edits. As I've explained numerous times before, Kia and Jataaka are no longer Sareena's allies, since she stopped working for Quan Chi. And, just because a character is a "good" guy, does not mean that he or she is Sareena's ally. However User:72.199.44.244 has made numerous edits to the Sareena page to the contrary. As of now, I've corrected his or her edits 11 times. And he or she has edited my user page deleting all its content twice. I am putting this up here now in the hopes that User:72.199.44.244 will see this and next time he or she feels the urge to vandalize my page he or she will instead opt to comment on my talk page and discuss his or her feelings so that we can come to a compromise concerning Sareena's page.


 * Dear Cavalier tunes,i get it but you are changing the allies and enemies and they are right please stop. i changed kia and jataaka ally with sareena to enemy but stop changing the ally and enemy.


 * Tell me when she was allied with Raiden or Johnny Cage or Kitana or any of the other allies you mentioned. Or when she was enemies with Mileena or Shao Kahn. Just because Sareena is good doesn't mean that Raiden is her ally, necessarily, and it doesn't make Shao Kahn her enemy, necessarily. In fact, I don't know that many of them have even met. Up until Armageddon, Sareena hadn't even been in the same game as Shao Kahn or Mileena. Please explain.CavalierTunes 04:00, July 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * it just said in there group of allies and enemies. mortal kombat characters have to have many friends. mabey we can work this out. are you a boy or girl


 * I'm a guy (and you?). I completely agree that they're all on the same side. But that's what this page is for. Sareena was never in the same game as Shao Kahn or Mileena until Mortal Kombat: Armageddon. And she was not the same game as Kai, for instance, until Mortal Kombat: Armageddon either; and Kai is a member of the White Lotus, while Sareena is (sort of) a member of the Lin Kuei. They may have never even met, so I don't believe it's fair to say they are "allies." Ashrah and Ermac hate one another, for instance, and they're both good guys. Similarly Sheeva and Motaro hate each other, even though they're both bad guys. Is there a specific reason why you think they should be listed as allies and enemies? Maybe there's something I don't know about.CavalierTunes 04:33, July 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * i am a boy to. sareena made friends with people from the netherealm like shujinko ashra ermac and nightwolf,made enemies with Quan chi shinnok noob smoke kia jataaka amd mileena in the netherealm when her soul was sent to the netherealm by shinnok,made friends with sub zero kai johnny cage jax kitana shujinko raiden stryker and cyrax in earthrealm,made friend with li mei in out world and made enemies with shao kahn in outworld.your making mistakes on people you erased liu kang for kung lao's allies ill fix them AGAIN!!!!!!


 * I'll give you that Sareena met Shujinko, because they interacted in Mortal Kombat: Deception's Konquest Mode. However, when did she meet Nightwolf or Ermac? Just because they were both in the Netherrealm, doesn't mean they ever met. And, most likely, she's enemies with Ashrah if anything, because Ashrah hates all demons, like Sareena. And Sareena had stopped working for Quan Chi before Mileena died and went to the Netherrealm, so there's a good chance they never met there either. Just because she was on Earthrealm doesn't mean she's every even met Johnny Cage, Jax, Kitana, Raiden, Stryker, or Cyrax. You and I both live on Earth and we've never met each other - in fact, we probably live in the same country - the Lin Kuei is Chinese and Styker's American, so how would Sareena and Stryker have met? And when she was in Outworld, who's to say she even meet Shao Kahn or Li Mei? Shao Kahn was in hiding during Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance, which was when Sareena was in Outworld. Just because they're on the same side doesn't mean they're enemies or allies. Also, Liu Kang is no longer Kung Lao's ally as of Mortal Kombat: Armageddon; read Fujin's biography for that game if you don't believe me. Tell me, definitively, that Sareena has met the people that you said she's allies or enemies with, and then maybe we can work this out.CavalierTunes 05:29, July 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * liu kang and raiden fought fugin and kung lao and after the battle fugin and kung lao won and they were friends again. mebey sareena mede friends and enemies off screen but mabey it happened like the deadly alliance killed the earth warriors but we didnt see it.


 * We don't know who won the battles between Kung Lao and Liu Kang, and Raiden and Fujin. We don't know what happened after Armageddon, yet. And "maybe" Sareena making friends isn't good enough. "Maybe" Reiko and Jade used to be married before Mortal Kombat I we have no proof that they were or they weren't. "Maybe" also means "maybe not." You're right that they're probably friends, but we don't have proof. Just the other day someone wrote that Kitana is going to be in the new Mortal Kombat game. I had to delete that. Why? Because even though Kitana's probably going to be in that game, almost 99% chance, until we have proof we cannot have it on Mortal Kombat Wikia. I'm sorry. But, we can't have any information on here that's just "maybe" true. Unless you can find some quote in the game that proves they were friends, or get Ed Boon himself to say that they were, we can't list them as allies. I'm sorry.CavalierTunes 05:49, July 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * kung lao and fugin won before armagedon and they all joined to fightwith the forces of light if they didnt win they would join the forces of darkness. ps it was me who put kitana for mk9 reason 1 brenda barrie with the voice of her reason 2 sonya and kitana are confirmed to be in it reason 3 a graph of her shown chained in kahn's arena if you go on the wiki of mortal kombay 2011


 * Liu Kang and Raiden did join the forces of light, but Raiden was still "dark." Raiden was still fighting for the good guys, but he was making Liu Kang's corpse kill and assassinate people that he thought were opposed to them. Fujin and Kung Lao were going to stop Raiden and Liu Kang, because Fujin thought that Raiden was going too far - even though they were all good guys. Not to mention, Fujin's biography states that the only way to stop Raiden and Liu Kang were to kill them - so the two of them joining the Forces of Light in Armageddon means they weren't killed yet, meaning - if Kung Lao and Fujin won - the fight hadn't happened yet.
 * And yes, I know that Brenda Barrie was called in to do motion capture for Kitana (not her voice), however that was never 100% confirmed. Imdb deleted that reference (which said she was playing "Katana" not "Kitana") shortly after it was put up there. And, even if she and Sonya were in the background of the game, that doesn't mean they're playable - especially because Ed Boon said that those characters in the background were just placeholders. And, Sonya and Kitana were never confirmed for the game. They are probably going to be in it, however, Ed Boon might change his mind at the last minute, or maybe Brenda Barrie was doing motion capture for Jade instead of Kitana…we don't know yet. And we can't put something in without proof.
 * Now, please tell me what proof you have that Sareena is allied with all the people you said she was allied with. And what proof you have that Fujin and Kung Lao won against Raiden and Liu Kang. If you cannot provide me with any proof, I'm going to have to correct the allies and enemies list those pages - I'm sorry. Even though Sareena is probably friends with all the people you mentioned (except Ashrah) and even though Kitana and Sonya are probably going to be in the new game, we can't include that information until it's proven. CavalierTunes 06:18, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Official Renders VS Fanart/Non-game Pictures
Hey, thank you for reverting my edit on Frost's page! I wanted to see if this wiki just let you put any old picture up for characters considering mileena's profile pic; It looks very revealing and more like a pic from deviant Art than a canonical game picture. It definitely draws unecessary attention to her article, even more so than just adding her playboy deception render somewhere as it is her main image. Shouldn't we revert that as well? Even if I'm mistaken and it is official, you'll never see Mileena dressed that way often enough to warrant such, and no other female combatant is that revealing so its unfair to their articles, which aren't as sexually appealing. The Robert: Your Hero (talk &bull; contribs &bull; email) 03:33, July 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, we couldn't have the Frost picture up as her primary profile picture because it was not an official render. As for Mileena, the primary profile picture is an official render. And the reason it's staying up (despite how obviously sexual it is) is because it is her primary costume for Mortal Kombat (2011). Every character's profile picture should have an official render or in-game picture from the most recent game they were in. Yes, Mileena's is very sexual, but it's her official costume from her latest appearance. <font color="#ff5a00">— <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#ff6000">C <font color="#fd6500">a <font color="#fb6b00">v <font color="#f97000">a <font color="#f77600">l <font color="#f57b00">i <font color="#f28100">e <font color="#f08600">r <font color="#ee8c00">T <font color="#ec9100">u <font color="#ea9700">n <font color="#e89c00">e <font color="#e6a200">s  <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#e4a700">t <font color="#e2ad00">a <font color="#e0b200">l <font color="#ddb800">k <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#dbbd00">t <font color="#d9c300">h <font color="#d7c800">e <font color="#d5ce00">S <font color="#d3d300">u <font color="#d1d900">b <font color="#cfde00">w <font color="#cde400">a <font color="#cbe900">y <font color="#c8ef00">W <font color="#c6f400">a <font color="#c4fa00">l <font color="#c2ff00">l 03:41, July 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * My goodness your signature takes a lot of script. Well that seems reasonable enough, and now that I think about it I remember seeing her fight Johnny Cage in that costume during the new trailer. I'll try to contribute more official pictures to the character pages. Probably first appearances and such. The Robert: Your Hero (talk &bull; contribs &bull; email) 03:58, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

Howdy, 'bout that one guy...
http://mortalkombat.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:166.205.138.234

This guy, the one who keeps editing the Allies and Enemies section of various kombatants. I spent some time undoing his edits because a lot of them make no sense to me. I don't know how all things work on this site, since I only just got here, but I want to help every way I can. I think he should be banned. EDIT: Sorry, I always forgot to sign these things. --Nave Ninja 18:47, July 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * Just keep on correcting his errors, and he'll be banned soon if he doesn't stop. The same guy was doing the same thing a month ago (under a different IP), and the mods eventually banned him. It won't be long before he's banned yet again. Thanks for helping correct his errors! <font color="#ff5a00">— <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#ff6000">C <font color="#fd6500">a <font color="#fb6b00">v <font color="#f97000">a <font color="#f77600">l <font color="#f57b00">i <font color="#f28100">e <font color="#f08600">r <font color="#ee8c00">T <font color="#ec9100">u <font color="#ea9700">n <font color="#e89c00">e <font color="#e6a200">s  <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#e4a700">t <font color="#e2ad00">a <font color="#e0b200">l <font color="#ddb800">k <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#dbbd00">t <font color="#d9c300">h <font color="#d7c800">e <font color="#d5ce00">S <font color="#d3d300">u <font color="#d1d900">b <font color="#cfde00">w <font color="#cde400">a <font color="#cbe900">y <font color="#c8ef00">W <font color="#c6f400">a <font color="#c4fa00">l <font color="#c2ff00">l 22:28, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Put those characters back
Dude I know those characters are confirmed, I just checked it on MK Universe and they said they were confirmed, thats what the Mortal Kombat Warehouse posted so check that site and see if i'm not lying.12.129.139.239 05:30, August 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * I read the source. And, as far as I can tell, the site has one user claiming that that's what Playstation Magazine said. With regards to Cyrax and Kano, there was a screenshot. However, MKUniverse's post was, again, made by one user, who might be lying. Once the new issue of the magazine is released, we'll know for sure. It may be that they are confirmed. But we cannot have speculation on the site. Also, read this; I think it explains how the MKUniverse post may be little more than speculation. <font color="#ff5a00">— <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#ff6000">C <font color="#fd6500">a <font color="#fb6b00">v <font color="#f97000">a <font color="#f77600">l <font color="#f57b00">i <font color="#f28100">e <font color="#f08600">r <font color="#ee8c00">T <font color="#ec9100">u <font color="#ea9700">n <font color="#e89c00">e <font color="#e6a200">s  <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#e4a700">t <font color="#e2ad00">a <font color="#e0b200">l <font color="#ddb800">k <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#dbbd00">t <font color="#d9c300">h <font color="#d7c800">e <font color="#d5ce00">S <font color="#d3d300">u <font color="#d1d900">b <font color="#cfde00">w <font color="#cde400">a <font color="#cbe900">y <font color="#c8ef00">W <font color="#c6f400">a <font color="#c4fa00">l <font color="#c2ff00">l 05:41, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I have actually read the magazine (a scan of it, anyway), and it states, quite clearly, "We expect that Liu Kang, Kitana, Jax, Smoke and Sonya Blade will make an appearance". That may not be exact, but I do recall the important word, and that is EXPECT. Meaning they don't actually know. Now, granted, it is very likely that these five WILL be in the game, but that's not the same as saying they ARE in the game (although I myself am hopeful, because Smoke is hardly the sort of character one would immediately think of). CrashBash 06:17, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Question
Why have you left Cyrax and Kano there? They were first said on MK Universe. Also, this may be a different magazine they are talking about (the one with some doll thing from LittleBig Planet on the cover).12.129.139.239 07:45, August 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * As I said before, with Cyrax and Kano, there was a screenshot. However, the new Playstation Magazine article says they expect to see Kitana, Liu Kang, Jax, Smoke, and Sonya, not that they're confirmed. And that's true: I expect that all five of those characters will be in the game, however, they're not confirmed yet.  In fact, I'm almost 100% sure that they'll all be in the game; but until we have an official source saying they are (not that they're just probably going to be), we can't have it on the site. <font color="#ff5a00">— <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#ff6000">C <font color="#fd6500">a <font color="#fb6b00">v <font color="#f97000">a <font color="#f77600">l <font color="#f57b00">i <font color="#f28100">e <font color="#f08600">r <font color="#ee8c00">T <font color="#ec9100">u <font color="#ea9700">n <font color="#e89c00">e <font color="#e6a200">s  <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#e4a700">t <font color="#e2ad00">a <font color="#e0b200">l <font color="#ddb800">k <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#dbbd00">t <font color="#d9c300">h <font color="#d7c800">e <font color="#d5ce00">S <font color="#d3d300">u <font color="#d1d900">b <font color="#cfde00">w <font color="#cde400">a <font color="#cbe900">y <font color="#c8ef00">W <font color="#c6f400">a <font color="#c4fa00">l <font color="#c2ff00">l  07:51, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

The Scorpion censor
I do agree with leaving it uncensored, it was just like that (**** and *****) for quite a while before someone came in and changed it. Personally, I have no problem with it. --Nave Ninja 10:26, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Let's debate.
http://mortalkombat.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Classic_Sub-Zero#Aight_Cavalier.2C_I.27ll_bite._Let_us_debate.

--Nave Ninja 17:08, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Onaga's servants
Actually Kira, Kobra and Kabal served him in Mortal Kombat Deception, there is a loading screen that shows Onaga giving orders to Kobra, so that is a proof and in Shujinko's ending he says that villains would bring their own destructions by serving Onaga! Tesshu-When The Law Fails to Serve Justice one can buy Justice. 03:29, August 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * If anything that load screen only proves Kobra's servitude, not the rest of Kabal and Havik's Black Dragon. Additionally, we have no proof of whether or not that load screen is canon.  Nor do we know to which villains Shujinko is referring (and, let's not forget that Shujinko is anything but a reliable source).  <p style="text-shadow:4px 4px 8px blue;"><font color="#ff5a00">— <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#ff6000">C <font color="#fd6500">a <font color="#fb6b00">v <font color="#f97000">a <font color="#f77600">l <font color="#f57b00">i <font color="#f28100">e <font color="#f08600">r <font color="#ee8c00">T <font color="#ec9100">u <font color="#ea9700">n <font color="#e89c00">e <font color="#e6a200">s  <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#e4a700">t <font color="#e2ad00">a <font color="#e0b200">l <font color="#ddb800">k <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#dbbd00">t <font color="#d9c300">h <font color="#d7c800">e <font color="#d5ce00">S <font color="#d3d300">u <font color="#d1d900">b <font color="#cfde00">w <font color="#cde400">a <font color="#cbe900">y <font color="#c8ef00">W <font color="#c6f400">a <font color="#c4fa00">l <font color="#c2ff00">l  20:42, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ninjamadness Question
Thanks dude I im new to this so I dont know how to make the words orange but check out my Pinwheel article. Ninjamadness 20:27, August 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * That's a good start, Ninjamadness, but you need to make some corrections. First of all, officially, Sonya's Mortal Kombat 4 weapon was called a wind blade, and there's already a page for that.  Secondly, never refer to anything that isn't verifiable (e.g. don't refer to Sonya's "pinwheel as a "joke weapon" unless you can prove that the Mortal Kombat Team intended it to be a "joke weapon").  Additionally, I read your article on Kitana's flying blade, and I do not believe that it was another name for her steel fans; it was small, and red, and not at all reminiscent of a fan in any way.  You need to continue research before making new articles.  That being said, your initiative is laudable, and keep that up!  If you start doing a little more research, you'll be a very good editor very soon.
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Tanya's descent
IsTanya African Edenian or Caucasian Edenian. Its very confusing


 * Although it is never explicitly stated, I have always assumed that she is either of dark-skinned Edenian descent, like Jade, or is of a mixed-race Edenian descent. Good question.  <p style="text-shadow:4px 4px 8px blue;"><font color="#ff5a00">— <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#ff6000">C <font color="#fd6500">a <font color="#fb6b00">v <font color="#f97000">a <font color="#f77600">l <font color="#f57b00">i <font color="#f28100">e <font color="#f08600">r <font color="#ee8c00">T <font color="#ec9100">u <font color="#ea9700">n <font color="#e89c00">e <font color="#e6a200">s  <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#e4a700">t <font color="#e2ad00">a <font color="#e0b200">l <font color="#ddb800">k <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#dbbd00">t <font color="#d9c300">h <font color="#d7c800">e <font color="#d5ce00">S <font color="#d3d300">u <font color="#d1d900">b <font color="#cfde00">w <font color="#cde400">a <font color="#cbe900">y <font color="#c8ef00">W <font color="#c6f400">a <font color="#c4fa00">l <font color="#c2ff00">l  22:50, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

My sincere apologies
So you can please tell to Smoke, Cavaliertunes, to unlock Johnny Cage's page, so that we can stop this misunderstanding! Tesshu_When The Law Fails to Serve Justice one can buy Justice. 05:47, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Another problem with 12.129.139.239.
http://mortalkombat.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:12.129.139.239#I.27m_not_going_back_and_forth_with_you_on_this.

You're seeing this, he's editing out a section on Mileena's page under the Relationships section, about her and Reptile being close in MK:SM. He's downright refusing to even talk about it, and has been rather cold. I tried to start talking with him about it, but it's getting a little sad. He's acting like it's his god-given right to determine what goes under the section because it was his idea. I believe that the majority should determine if it's good or not, so I'm sorry, but I'm forced to bring you in to help solve the dispute. --Nave Ninja 00:51, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Jade in Mortal Kombat 9!
Hey there Cavaliertunes! I want ask you this: Can I add Jade in a section of Mortal Kombat (2011) in "Rumored Characters" list, because you knwon that Her arena Jade's Desert is confirmed so that is a reference that, jade will be indeed in the upcoming Mortal Kombat game dont you think? Tesshu, When The Law Fails to Serve Justice one can buy Justice. 01:41, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, plain and simple. Just like Goro's Lair appeared in Mortal Kombat II, despite the fact that Goro was not in the game, Jade's Desert might appear in Mortal Kombat (2011) whether or not Jade is in the game.  Don't rush to assume. <font color="#ff5a00">— <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#ff6000">C <font color="#fd6500">a <font color="#fb6b00">v <font color="#f97000">a <font color="#f77600">l <font color="#f57b00">i <font color="#f28100">e <font color="#f08600">r <font color="#ee8c00">T <font color="#ec9100">u <font color="#ea9700">n <font color="#e89c00">e <font color="#e6a200">s  <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#e4a700">t <font color="#e2ad00">a <font color="#e0b200">l <font color="#ddb800">k <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#dbbd00">t <font color="#d9c300">h <font color="#d7c800">e <font color="#d5ce00">S <font color="#d3d300">u <font color="#d1d900">b <font color="#cfde00">w <font color="#cde400">a <font color="#cbe900">y <font color="#c8ef00">W <font color="#c6f400">a <font color="#c4fa00">l <font color="#c2ff00">l  01:49, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Why?
Why do you keep changing back what i'm trying to do? I know there is no possible way they could have survived the wounds they have.12.129.139.239 05:06, August 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * Have you actually played Mortal Kombat? In Mortal Kombat: Deception, for instance, you can stab someone in the gut with Kung Lao's broadsword, and that individual can still win the game. Yes, in real life they sure as hell would've died, but Kung Lao and Baraka wouldn't be fighting in mid air, and Shang Tsung wouldn't be transforming his appearance. Not to mention, if the opening video is even canon (I'm of the opinion that it isn't, but that's another debate entirely), it would conflict with the endings of about half the characters that you say were killed, because it obviously occurred before anyone has had a chance to fight Blaze. <font color="#ff5a00">— <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#ff6000">C <font color="#fd6500">a <font color="#fb6b00">v <font color="#f97000">a <font color="#f77600">l <font color="#f57b00">i <font color="#f28100">e <font color="#f08600">r <font color="#ee8c00">T <font color="#ec9100">u <font color="#ea9700">n <font color="#e89c00">e <font color="#e6a200">s  <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#e4a700">t <font color="#e2ad00">a <font color="#e0b200">l <font color="#ddb800">k <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#dbbd00">t <font color="#d9c300">h <font color="#d7c800">e <font color="#d5ce00">S <font color="#d3d300">u <font color="#d1d900">b <font color="#cfde00">w <font color="#cde400">a <font color="#cbe900">y <font color="#c8ef00">W <font color="#c6f400">a <font color="#c4fa00">l <font color="#c2ff00">l 05:14, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * First of all, the stab move was not in Deception it is in Deadly Alliance. Second, Nave Ninja said the opening video of Armageddon was canon, this is all too confusing now, so just forget about this i'll just leave those alone if you so desire.12.129.139.239 05:29, August 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * You're right, it was Deadly Alliance, not Deception; I mistyped. And yes, User:Nave Ninja and I disagree about whether the opening video is canon or not. However, that has no affect on the edits. Even if it was canon, we still have no proof that Li Mei and/or Sheeva were killed. <font color="#ff5a00">— <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#ff6000">C <font color="#fd6500">a <font color="#fb6b00">v <font color="#f97000">a <font color="#f77600">l <font color="#f57b00">i <font color="#f28100">e <font color="#f08600">r <font color="#ee8c00">T <font color="#ec9100">u <font color="#ea9700">n <font color="#e89c00">e <font color="#e6a200">s  <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#e4a700">t <font color="#e2ad00">a <font color="#e0b200">l <font color="#ddb800">k <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#dbbd00">t <font color="#d9c300">h <font color="#d7c800">e <font color="#d5ce00">S <font color="#d3d300">u <font color="#d1d900">b <font color="#cfde00">w <font color="#cde400">a <font color="#cbe900">y <font color="#c8ef00">W <font color="#c6f400">a <font color="#c4fa00">l <font color="#c2ff00">l 05:32, August 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well I you are right. In Konquest mode, when you defeat Goro he said to Taven that "should we meet in the battle" or something like that, and he did not show up in the opening scene, so I guess the opening scene would be non canon.12.129.139.239 05:47, August 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * Just because Goro wasn't in the opening scene, that alone doesn't make it non-canon. --Nave Ninja 13:43, August 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * There is, in fact, no concrete reason why the opening video shouldn't be considered canon, as long as no one dies during the battle, Nave Ninja, (and I agree with your sentiment about Goro). However, I am of the opinion that the Mortal Kombat Team didn't intend the video to be canon, but rather as an interesting sequence depicting a big fight between all (or almost all) of the Mortal Kombat characters.  Certain things – like the fact that everyone has chosen a side, despite persons like Scorpion being neutral – make the movie feel out of place to me, without necessarily making it non-canon.  I agree with what you said about the "intro scene [being] canonical because it cannot be disproven as such," and I certainly cannot disprove the possibility that it is canon.  And, all my edits on this wiki will reflect the opinion that the intro scene is canon, despite my own personal beliefs.  In essence, you're right; unless that opening video is ever contradicted, it should be considered canon – and I will treat it as canon, despite the fact that I don't think it is intended to be viewed that way.  As always, Nave Ninja, keep up the good work – you're doing a great job!  <font color="#ff5a00">— <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#ff6000">C <font color="#fd6500">a <font color="#fb6b00">v <font color="#f97000">a <font color="#f77600">l <font color="#f57b00">i <font color="#f28100">e <font color="#f08600">r <font color="#ee8c00">T <font color="#ec9100">u <font color="#ea9700">n <font color="#e89c00">e <font color="#e6a200">s  <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#e4a700">t <font color="#e2ad00">a <font color="#e0b200">l <font color="#ddb800">k <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#dbbd00">t <font color="#d9c300">h <font color="#d7c800">e <font color="#d5ce00">S <font color="#d3d300">u <font color="#d1d900">b <font color="#cfde00">w <font color="#cde400">a <font color="#cbe900">y <font color="#c8ef00">W <font color="#c6f400">a <font color="#c4fa00">l <font color="#c2ff00">l  16:09, August 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, thanks. You're cool, too. --Nave Ninja 16:40, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Where did these come from?
Recently, at the top of many character's pages, it says "Insert Name Here is a fictional character in the Mortal Kombat series" or something like that. There is no page leading to fictional characters, because why would there be? Everything in Mortal Kombat is fiction. I've been removing them where I find them, but I haven't gone through all of the character's pages. --Nave Ninja 08:49, September 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * There used to be one, but it was deleted for not having any purpose. My apologies for jumping in, but that's pretty much it. CrashBash 15:18, September 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * As Crash said, there was once a page. I deleted it because by its very nature, the Mortal Kombat Universe and everything in it is fictional; there is no need to define a fictional character on a wiki that is about a fictional universe full of fictional characters. This is not wikipedia.


 * Also of note is the fact that pages like that are a remnant of when this wiki was a copy-paste wiki.  Smoke Sound off! 08:42, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Good job
Thanks for being the voice of reason here. I do greatly appreciate it. Keep up the good work.  Smoke Sound off! 08:42, September 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm always glad to help, Smoke.. Thank you! And, by the way, thank you, again, for being an active moderator – it's reassuring to know there's always someone like yourself to help during a conflict, to settle an issue, and to keep the site running smoothly! <font color="#ff5a00">— <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#ff6000">C <font color="#fd6500">a <font color="#fb6b00">v <font color="#f97000">a <font color="#f77600">l <font color="#f57b00">i <font color="#f28100">e <font color="#f08600">r <font color="#ee8c00">T <font color="#ec9100">u <font color="#ea9700">n <font color="#e89c00">e <font color="#e6a200">s  <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#e4a700">t <font color="#e2ad00">a <font color="#e0b200">l <font color="#ddb800">k <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#dbbd00">t <font color="#d9c300">h <font color="#d7c800">e <font color="#d5ce00">S <font color="#d3d300">u <font color="#d1d900">b <font color="#cfde00">w <font color="#cde400">a <font color="#cbe900">y <font color="#c8ef00">W <font color="#c6f400">a <font color="#c4fa00">l <font color="#c2ff00">l 16:46, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

The Smoke Debate
Thanks for letting me know. Not much else to say, but I agree with you on it, that we should just do what we did with Classic Sub-Zero's page. --Nave Ninja 05:55, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Jarek
That Jarek,thing actally happened just like the "Do you really want a pie?" thing you want the link to his MK4 ending? You'll see what I mean it's funny. Hangingmanpeter0 03:00, September 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * People make up tons of funny things that they think that the characters are saying (when most, if not all of the time, they're saying gibberish). However funny it may be, unless you can prove that the MK Team made it intentional funny – or if it is particularly notable for some other reason – we can't put it on the wiki. This isn't just a place to post every little tidbit of information tangentially related to Mortal Kombat, there has to be some level of discrimination here, otherwise we could post all sorts of things that (regardless of how "true" they may be) have little to do with the overall scheme of MK. For instance, did you know that Sareena's hair is similar to Rogue's from the X-Men, and that her facial tattoos resemble Sage's scars from the X-Men? However, since I can in now way prove that those similarities are intentional, and they're by no means important, they wouldn't be worthy of including on Sareena's page. Does that make sense? <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#f26522">— <font color="#f36b22">C <font color="#f47220">a <font color="#f5781f">v <font color="#f67e1d">a <font color="#f7841c">l <font color="#f88b1b">i <font color="#f99119">e <font color="#f99718">r <font color="#fa9d16">T <font color="#fba415">u <font color="#fcaa14">n <font color="#fdb012">e <font color="#feb611">s <font color="#ffbd0f">t <font color="#ffc20e">a <font color="#fdc410">l <font color="#f9c512">k<font color="#f6c713">t <font color="#f3c915">h <font color="#efca17">e <font color="#eccc19">S <font color="#e9cd1b">u <font color="#e6cf1d">b <font color="#e2d11e">w <font color="#dfd220">a <font color="#dcd422">y <font color="#d8d624">W <font color="#d5d726">a <font color="#d2d927">l <font color="#ceda29">l<font color="#782812"> 07:13, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, remember to sign your posts! <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#f26522">— <font color="#f36b22">C <font color="#f47220">a <font color="#f5781f">v <font color="#f67e1d">a <font color="#f7841c">l <font color="#f88b1b">i <font color="#f99119">e <font color="#f99718">r <font color="#fa9d16">T <font color="#fba415">u <font color="#fcaa14">n <font color="#fdb012">e <font color="#feb611">s <font color="#ffbd0f">t <font color="#ffc20e">a <font color="#fdc410">l <font color="#f9c512">k<font color="#f6c713">t <font color="#f3c915">h <font color="#efca17">e <font color="#eccc19">S <font color="#e9cd1b">u <font color="#e6cf1d">b <font color="#e2d11e">w <font color="#dfd220">a <font color="#dcd422">y <font color="#d8d624">W <font color="#d5d726">a <font color="#d2d927">l <font color="#ceda29">l<font color="#782812"> 07:17, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

RE: KedrickBurton
I warned him. If the behavior keeps up further action will be taken.  Smoke Sound off! 12:57, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

sonya
sonya has been confirmed in mk 2011 Kitana19669 23:49, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

sonya has been confirmed in mk 2011 Kitana19669 23:49, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

sonya has been confirmed in mk 2011 Kitana19669 23:49, September 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * First of all, please remember to sign your name to any post you make on a talk page (that is to say place "&#126;&#126;&#126;&#126;" at the end of whatever you type on my or anyone else's talk pages). Second of all, please, only leave a message once, not three times. And, finally, please, tell what official source has confirmed Sonya to be in the new Mortal Kombat video game. Because, I certainly haven't heard that. No source I'm aware of has said that Sonya is going to be in the game. If you can tell me, and it is, in fact, an official source (that is to say, a member of the MK Team), then we'll certainly update the Mortal Kombat (2011 video game) page to reflect this new information! Otherwise, stop making false edits! <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#f26522">— <font color="#f36b22">C <font color="#f47220">a <font color="#f5781f">v <font color="#f67e1d">a <font color="#f7841c">l <font color="#f88b1b">i <font color="#f99119">e <font color="#f99718">r <font color="#fa9d16">T <font color="#fba415">u <font color="#fcaa14">n <font color="#fdb012">e <font color="#feb611">s <font color="#ffbd0f">t <font color="#ffc20e">a <font color="#fdc410">l <font color="#f9c512">k<font color="#f6c713">t <font color="#f3c915">h <font color="#efca17">e <font color="#eccc19">S <font color="#e9cd1b">u <font color="#e6cf1d">b <font color="#e2d11e">w <font color="#dfd220">a <font color="#dcd422">y <font color="#d8d624">W <font color="#d5d726">a <font color="#d2d927">l <font color="#ceda29">l<font color="#782812"> 00:28, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Sareena
Cavalier tune what are you doing to the sareena page sareena is a good alignment on ed boon stated shes good during the events of armageddon on her bio kard it said shes good and quan chi cast a spell on her for his servant then sareena was freed from the spell by taven and returned to sub zero so stop or ill tell smoke 72.199.42.243 00:52, September 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * First of all, please sign your posts. Second of all, please start a new section whenever you're starting a new topic on someone's talk page. Third of all, please, go ahead, tell Smoke., I'm doing everything by the books. And finally, read Sareena's talk page! That explains everything. If you have a problem with her alignment being listed as "Unknown," then debate about it there. Maybe you can convince Kombatgod to change his mind. To be honest, I tend to agree with you: I think Sareena is a good guy; however, the consensus on the talk page was to list her alignment as "Unknown." If you want to change it, then, please, contribute to the debate. And, by all means, remember to sign your posts. (place "&#126;&#126;&#126;&#126;" after what you write on a talk page). <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#f26522">— <font color="#f36b22">C <font color="#f47220">a <font color="#f5781f">v <font color="#f67e1d">a <font color="#f7841c">l <font color="#f88b1b">i <font color="#f99119">e <font color="#f99718">r <font color="#fa9d16">T <font color="#fba415">u <font color="#fcaa14">n <font color="#fdb012">e <font color="#feb611">s <font color="#ffbd0f">t <font color="#ffc20e">a <font color="#fdc410">l <font color="#f9c512">k<font color="#f6c713">t <font color="#f3c915">h <font color="#efca17">e <font color="#eccc19">S <font color="#e9cd1b">u <font color="#e6cf1d">b <font color="#e2d11e">w <font color="#dfd220">a <font color="#dcd422">y <font color="#d8d624">W <font color="#d5d726">a <font color="#d2d927">l <font color="#ceda29">l<font color="#782812"> 01:07, September 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * okay i dont know how to do it 72.199.42.243 01:14, September 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * First of all, don't write within what I wrote. Second of all, to sign you post, just write "&#126;&#126;&#126;&#126;" after your post. It's that simple. <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#f26522">— <font color="#f36b22">C <font color="#f47220">a <font color="#f5781f">v <font color="#f67e1d">a <font color="#f7841c">l <font color="#f88b1b">i <font color="#f99119">e <font color="#f99718">r <font color="#fa9d16">T <font color="#fba415">u <font color="#fcaa14">n <font color="#fdb012">e <font color="#feb611">s <font color="#ffbd0f">t <font color="#ffc20e">a <font color="#fdc410">l <font color="#f9c512">k<font color="#f6c713">t <font color="#f3c915">h <font color="#efca17">e <font color="#eccc19">S <font color="#e9cd1b">u <font color="#e6cf1d">b <font color="#e2d11e">w <font color="#dfd220">a <font color="#dcd422">y <font color="#d8d624">W <font color="#d5d726">a <font color="#d2d927">l <font color="#ceda29">l<font color="#782812"> 01:35, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey guys, don't fight 'till death! Seriously, if someone has something to say, do it in the talk page! Before changing things as I did, I warned three times in the discussion page! I always tought that editing this wiki is something one does not much to give information or for some kind of mission, but because it is fun! I don't care of imposing my point of view, I enjoy discussing about characters and trying to get to conclusions. So instead of menacing to bother Smoke, we should just discuss, don't you think? See ya in Sareena's discussion page!--Kombatgod 01:52, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Albeit, I have nothing to say about the topic. I said my piece on Sareena's discussion page. I only think that 72.199.42.243 should do the same. <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#f26522">— <font color="#f36b22">C <font color="#f47220">a <font color="#f5781f">v <font color="#f67e1d">a <font color="#f7841c">l <font color="#f88b1b">i <font color="#f99119">e <font color="#f99718">r <font color="#fa9d16">T <font color="#fba415">u <font color="#fcaa14">n <font color="#fdb012">e <font color="#feb611">s <font color="#ffbd0f">t <font color="#ffc20e">a <font color="#fdc410">l <font color="#f9c512">k<font color="#f6c713">t <font color="#f3c915">h <font color="#efca17">e <font color="#eccc19">S <font color="#e9cd1b">u <font color="#e6cf1d">b <font color="#e2d11e">w <font color="#dfd220">a <font color="#dcd422">y <font color="#d8d624">W <font color="#d5d726">a <font color="#d2d927">l <font color="#ceda29">l<font color="#782812"> 01:58, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

thank you
thank you cavalier tunes for helping me with liu kang and others its me damion dillard Damion Dillard 02:18, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Keep up the good edits! And, (for future reference), you should sign your name at the end of each post on a talk page by writing "&#126;&#126;&#126;&#126;" at the end of each comment. I edited it in for you on the above post. <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#f26522">— <font color="#f36b22">C <font color="#f47220">a <font color="#f5781f">v <font color="#f67e1d">a <font color="#f7841c">l <font color="#f88b1b">i <font color="#f99119">e <font color="#f99718">r <font color="#fa9d16">T <font color="#fba415">u <font color="#fcaa14">n <font color="#fdb012">e <font color="#feb611">s <font color="#ffbd0f">t <font color="#ffc20e">a <font color="#fdc410">l <font color="#f9c512">k<font color="#f6c713">t <font color="#f3c915">h <font color="#efca17">e <font color="#eccc19">S <font color="#e9cd1b">u <font color="#e6cf1d">b <font color="#e2d11e">w <font color="#dfd220">a <font color="#dcd422">y <font color="#d8d624">W <font color="#d5d726">a <font color="#d2d927">l <font color="#ceda29">l<font color="#782812"> 02:25, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay but the reason why i edit sareena alignment is because it states on her bio kard said by ed boon she is good during the events of armageddon.Damion Dillard 02:30, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Understood. However, there's a debate regarding Sareena's alignment on her talk page.  Before you change her alignment, you should discuss it there.  Also, don't write your post within my post.  <font face="tempus sans itc"><font color="#f26522">— <font color="#f36b22">C <font color="#f47220">a <font color="#f5781f">v <font color="#f67e1d">a <font color="#f7841c">l <font color="#f88b1b">i <font color="#f99119">e <font color="#f99718">r <font color="#fa9d16">T <font color="#fba415">u <font color="#fcaa14">n <font color="#fdb012">e <font color="#feb611">s <font color="#ffbd0f">t <font color="#ffc20e">a <font color="#fdc410">l <font color="#f9c512">k<font color="#f6c713">t <font color="#f3c915">h <font color="#efca17">e <font color="#eccc19">S <font color="#e9cd1b">u <font color="#e6cf1d">b <font color="#e2d11e">w <font color="#dfd220">a <font color="#dcd422">y <font color="#d8d624">W <font color="#d5d726">a <font color="#d2d927">l <font color="#ceda29">l<font color="#782812"> 02:47, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

that's it
That's it i cant express this question any longer did jade's death in mortal kombat shaolin monk and annilation real or fake and i do not mean real people i mean did it really happend in her storyline.Damion Dillard 03:38, October 6, 2010 (UTC)