Board Thread:General MK Discussion/@comment-1084762-20150807025315/@comment-5561191-20150810190010

JohnsThrone wrote: Alright let me give an actual comment instead of just posting comic pics and messing with nitpickers.

Not gonna cover the OG timeline, since Kuai (Since this is his Sub-Zero we're debating as I've been told) only fought Scorpion once there and they were never really enemies afterwards.

While in the current timeline, Kuai has defeated Scorpion once, where as the flamehead has beaten our favorite Cryomancer twice. But all three of these situations were different (Well two of 'em were actually pretty alike).

In their first match in Shao Kahn's tournament, Kuai defeated Scorpion. Hanzo called this a technical loss, which is a lie. He was knocked down and at Sub-Zero's mercy, only spared because the Lin Kuei cyborgs intervened to capture Kuai.

In their rematch in the comics, Kuai was winning, but these were extenuating circumstances. Kuai was both possessed by Havik, and under the influence of the Blood Code, which was enhancing his ice powers, strength, speed, and durability. While empowered by the Blood Code, Kuai was pretty much toying with Hanzo. When Takeda stole the Kamidogu from Kuai, and Havik used up the Blood Magik strengthening him, Kuai was left exhausted and wounded, just as Scorpion went on the all out offensive. Even then, Kuai was able to defend himself and knock Scorpion down, and tried to reason with him.

Scorpion, being the hothead he is, summoned his demon familiars to snatch Kuai, hold him place so he could impale him, and then decided to toasty his ass. Kuai only survived because Takeda talked Hanzo down and Bo Rai' Cho came by to tend to his wounds.

In their third match, years later, Hanzo and Kuai fought again, and Hanzo won, but he didn't kill Kuai when he realized that Kuai only wanted to talk and wasn't trying to assassinate him. Logic and reason finally won out for Hanzo, a first.

So what am I getting at? In both of their later fights, Hanzo won, but, only because Kuai wasn't trying to kill him, just reason with and talk him down. Kuai was fighting in self-defense, whereas in their first fight, he initiated the battle and won.

My point is this: If Kuai wanted to and was willing to, he could kill Scorpion.

Though I'm like some of the others, as long as it makes for good storytelling drama, their tiffs will go back and forth between who wins, who loses, and whatever reasons they'll always be fighting for one reason or another.

But I guess my point is, I think Sub-Zero could beat Scorpion. Good point, I didn't think about that. In the new timeline, in both fights Kuai lost to Scorpion he was trying to reason with him, and not actually trying to defeat Hanzo. However, he won the only fight he actually wanted to win, the tournament one.

I had previously said that Hanzo would probably win if Kuai didn't know him and his tatics so well, but by that time Kuai defeated Hanzo, he didn't know anything about him, other than the fact that he had killed his brother. Yeah, that's enough for me. I'm with Sub-Zero now.