Talk:Smoke

That new smoke artwork isn't for MK9
It's just fanart,nothing more than that.(Hangingmanpeter0 06:24, December 9, 2010 (UTC))
 * Well, don't worry, it will not be appearing on Smoke's article. You, Smoke., most other registered users, and I are not stupid enough to allow that picture or any other piece of fan art on any encyclopedic article. 06:34, December 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * We think a lot alike it's nice artwork,but isn't by anybody at NRS,or has been confirmed by anybody there(Hangingmanpeter0 06:44, December 9, 2010 (UTC))
 * Forgive me if I'm stating the obvious, since you already know it's not official, but it says "cgsociety.com" on the bottom, which is a site 3D artists use to post pictures of their work. If this somehow *is* an official render, someone just lost their job over this. But yes, it's most likely just (well done) fan art. Drpvfx 19:27, December 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not an offcial render,it's just fan art.(Hangingmanpeter0 23:14, December 9, 2010 (UTC))
 * Forgive me if I'm stating the obvious, since you already know it's not official, but it says "cgsociety.com" on the bottom, which is a site 3D artists use to post pictures of their work. If this somehow *is* an official render, someone just lost their job over this. But yes, it's most likely just (well done) fan art. Drpvfx 19:27, December 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not an offcial render,it's just fan art.(Hangingmanpeter0 23:14, December 9, 2010 (UTC))
 * It's not an offcial render,it's just fan art.(Hangingmanpeter0 23:14, December 9, 2010 (UTC))

For the last time
That artwork isn't what Smoke is gonna look like in MK9! It's fanart.. here is the link to the fanmade Smoke artwork.---> (Hangingmanpeter0 01:40, December 29, 2010 (UTC))

one question
u know in that video where this guy is talking to ed boon at gamespot and thre was a cake. ed said that there will be unlockable codes from the krypt to use in the game

smoke was a secret playable character in mk3 yeah well i think think not know and i don't its just a thought that he might be a secret character as he said trying to come back to the roots of mortal kombat and there alot secret characters back then. (Scorp zero 05:44, March 5, 2011 (UTC)) Scorp_zero

Who keeps typing in Tomas Vrbada as Smoke's real name? Don't you all think that's a little too random a name for someone like Smoke? And what's with his birthplace being the Czech Republic? Until I start seeing proof that these two things are true, they should be stricken from the page.Brianptorres 08:06, March 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Warning — Spoilers Follow: The Mortal Kombat (2011) Demo was hacked by (numerous) tech-savvy individuals. Hidden within the coding of the game were the majority of the bios and endings of characters within it. In Smoke's bio, his name is revealed to be Tomas Vrbada, and his birthplace is revealed to be Prague (which is in the Czech Republic). 08:10, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Human Smoke, MK9 Fatality
thumb|300px|right|Smoke's Fatality in MK9, Humen Form ~Jman  98   is   AMAZING! ~ 22:29, March 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * That fatality is fake. 22:32, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * You spelled human wrong. SN the mighty Tin Man 22:42, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Whoops! I didn't notice that! And, how is it fake CavalierTunesSignature? Jman98 uploaded this!!!!!!!.png ~Jman  98   is   AMAZING! ~ 01:14, March 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * It was made by a 3D artist named Piranhasoldier. It says so right in the video. He made a few other fake fatality videos as well. He's a very good artist; but all his videos are fake. And my name is "CavalierTunes" not "CavalierTunesSignature," FYI. 02:10, March 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * MKvsKI 18:47, April 5, 2011 (UTC)CavalierTunes is right if you look at the fake smoke, its just a recolored subzero, i know because i've seen another video made by Pirahnasoldier for ermac, who was just a red palette swap of sub zero. MKvsKI 18:47, April 5, 2011 (UTC)MkvsKI 02:47, April 5, 2011.
 * MKvsKI 18:47, April 5, 2011 (UTC)CavalierTunes is right if you look at the fake smoke, its just a recolored subzero, i know because i've seen another video made by Pirahnasoldier for ermac, who was just a red palette swap of sub zero. MKvsKI 18:47, April 5, 2011 (UTC)MkvsKI 02:47, April 5, 2011.

I Need an admin to unlock Smokes page, I SPOTTED HIM!
Hi,

I have spotted Smoke in his Classic costume from MK2 and MK3 but the page is locked so i cant add it, Just wondering could an admin unlock it for a few minutes? I Found Smoke in the new Raiden story trailer... I captured a screenshot of it, he was in the background just standing there behind Liu Kang's head.

Thanks

EDIT:

If you dont believe me I have a picture, just request it


 * Just upload the picture, and I'll put it on the page for you. 11:05, March 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * SHADOW3982:
 * SMOKE.png AT 0.21 ON THE RAIDEN STORY TRAILER BEHIND LIU KANG'S HEAD.
 * Let's hold off to find out if that's actually smoke, or if that's just some random, gray ninja first. Good catch, though. 15:53, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Let's hold off to find out if that's actually smoke, or if that's just some random, gray ninja first. Good catch, though. 15:53, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Still, that whole name, "Tomaas Vbrada", and the fact that his birthplace is Prague, doesn't that sound completely random to you? That it could be some obsessed fan that wrote that instead of the Mortal Kombat Team themselves?Brianptorres 06:46, March 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * First of all, any birthplace is random, when you think about it. And, secondly, maybe you think it sounds random, or that some fan made it up, but the fact of the matter is, they didn't. The MK-team did. They wrote his biography and ending. 15:53, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I'm not convinced. Smoke is not that important to be given a real name, or a country. If the MK Team did in fact give him that background and name and it makes its way into the game itself, then I'll leave it at that. Otherwise, I refuse to accept those "facts". As far as I'm aware of, Smoke is Smoke.24.5.248.159 05:51, March 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, I'll give you a personal apology and a present if I'm wrong then. We'll have to wait a little less than a month, though. The game comes out on April 19th. 12:02, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Question, kinda stupid, but How did Smoke turn good again? In Deception, he was with Noob, then in Armageddon he just turned good, Idk how though. If anyone has the answer, please tell me, It mite be a stupid question, but answer it anyway. Thanks. - ASCOTTYJ

Sub-Zero restored him. SN the mighty Tin Man 22:53, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Though Sub-Zero restored him in Armageddon, MK2011 is a retelling of the first 3 MK games, so Smoke is back to his former self: good and human. Dragon NJMB 23:28, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

I thought so, but I never could find it in Smoke's or Sub-Zero's articles. Thanks -- ASCOTTYJ

hello that picture is actually not smoke because i saw 3 of the same guy who i think are in the lin kuei or maybe a shadow warrior but im positive its not smoke it well if there are 3 smokes in the world that could behim but there is only 1 so i don't think it isScorp zero 03:53, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Hi, i just see the page and this image appears in the article even when it hasn't been confirmed to be smoke, i think it should be deleted until we have some confirmation that really is smoke.—Гонсо 17:23, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

No, i dont think it needs to be, thats pretty obvious its smoke.

Like, painfully obvious. SN the mighty Tin Man 17:46, March 26, 2011

Dude, who keeps writing Smoke's name is Tomas Vrbada. Where does it say that is his name?-ReyesRebels(UTC)

Dont know if useful or not, yet i found his klassic kostume GunBlazer 18:27, April 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Read above. Hackers got into the demo and posted the bios and everything. His bio reveals his name. I'd advise you to keep this discussion to this page and not continuously remove information from the article.  Smoke Sound off! 01:18, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * If that's what Smoke is going to look like as a human...... maybe he's better off as a cyborg.
 * If that's what Smoke is going to look like as a human...... maybe he's better off as a cyborg.

Smoke's Cyborg Body
In Smoke's trivia, this was written: "As a cyborg, Smoke's color scheme in Mortal Kombat 3 involves a violet shade of blue (preferably periwinkle and/or indigo) rather than grey. Fans speculated that Smoke is a robotic Sub-Zero because of their similar color schemes.". And if we compare Smoke as an Human and as a Cyborg, he have two color schemes: Grey as Human Smoke and Violet shade of Blue.

I think that the body that Smoke uses was intended for Sub-Zero (and the best proof is Cyber Sub-Zero in MK 2011). What is your oppinion about this? We need to add this info in the trivia? Dragon NJMB 23:46, March 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * It is just as it says it is, speculation. Doesn't need to be in the trivia.  Smoke Sound off! 23:54, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

someone uploaded a cyborg smoke render for mk2011 will it be allowed? GunBlazer 13:04, April 7, 2011 (UTC) whoa! what an artist the one who did it. yet, so its still unknown if he will make it.......... GunBlazer 20:35, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

its not a recolor, they are quite similar, but different at once. look at the helmet, hands and chest and judge. GunBlazer 20:18, April 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * No. I saw that upload, it's a recoloring. In other words: it's a fake; not legitimate. If cyborg Smoke makes it into the game, and a render is released, then it will be allowed on an article on this site. 15:37, April 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's a mixture of the cyborgs. It's been retouched to make it look real. Azeruth 20:20, April 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * The "Cyborg Smoke" has Sektor's arm and facemask, Cyber Sub-Zero's body (note the little lights) and part of Cyrax's body to cover up other lights (his right shoulder). Cyrax's forearm is used, the stomach is partially Sektor/Cyrax.

Azeruth 20:31, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

I think that we already have Cyber Smoke in MK2011: Cyber Sub-Zero. In the original timeline, Smoke was captured and becomes a cyborg with blue/purple colors instead gray like him (i can assume that robot body was intented in the beginning to Sub-Zero but was Smoke the one who was captured). What do you think? -- Dragon NJMB 02:40, June 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * The MK Team probably saw an opportunity to make a drastic change and seized it. So, yes, I think Cyber Smoke is Cyber Sub-Zero, in the alternative timeline. Raiden even mentioned he spared Smoke from being a Cyborg but just made Sub-Zero become a cyborg instead. -- AZERUTH 13:03, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

We need to mention this in Smoke's article! Who agrees? -- Dragon NJMB 15:06, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

do we have any conclusive proof that Cyber Sub-Zero's body is the same as Cyber-Smoke's (and no, the fact that they are the same color does not count as conclusive) -- 15:12, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

1.- The Lin Kuei began his Cyborg Iniciative with 3 prototypes: a yellow body (for Cyrax), a red one (for Sektor) and a blue one (actually for Sub-Zero). 2.- The body was created before being implanted in the user. 3.- Both Sub-Zero and Smoke escaped from the Lin Kuei before being automated, but in the 1st timeline Smoke don't have the luck to escape but Sub-Zero yes and is the other way in the 2nd timeline. 4.- The color scheme body of the cyborgs is the same one that they uses as humans: Sektor=red, Cyrax=yellow and Sub-Zero=blue.

Due to the lack of information from the MK Team, in this wikia we have to assume a strong speculation like we proved in The 5 Survivors of the Battle of Armageddon, Sareena's alignment in MKA, Shinnok's clone, etc. And the body of Cyber Sub-Zero being the same one that Smoke uses in the 1st Timeline is one of those strong speculations, until NRS say the opposite or confirm it. -- Dragon NJMB 15:46, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Real name?
Is that honestly his real name or did some random lurker put that info in? Kaihedgie 01:58, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

We've been through this many times. Read above before posting. ~Jman  98   is   AMAZING! ~ 03:43, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yes. Look at his ending in MK 2011. The annoccer says (I can't blame you. I'd never guess his real name was Tom). Tremorfan94 00:42, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Smoke's moves in MK9
I noticed people making some weird additions to the Smoke page re: his moves in MK9.

thumb|300px|right|Smoke's Gameplay in MK9The Demo Leaks contain Smoke's full movelist, and he has only four, named Smoke Cloud, Shake, Teleport, and Air Throw. This video showcases all of these moves except the Air Throw. Shake is what he does a couple of times before the Fatality executes. Though we don't see it in action, reliable sources say it makes him immune to projectiles, or reflects them. Smoke Cloud teleports the opponent up into the air, in one case bringing them closer to Smoke, as well. Teleport looks extremely versatile, like you can add attacks to it like Kung Lao's. He does not have a single move from his older movesets aside from Air Throw. Please don't add things like Smokeycut and Stinky Fingers to his MK:2011 moves- he doesn't have them in this game. Please keep it limited to the four moves we *know* he has. Thanks! Drpvfx 09:48, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Glad someone finally notices it! GunBlazer 12:40, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Moving
Moved all Human Smoke references to its respective article --GunBlazer 15:20, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Smoke's fatality
Here it is, if you havent seen it. I don't know how to embed, so ill leave this here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYD39yct270

Whoops, forgot to sign this. ThatRandomGuy117 08:29, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

This one is in HD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7XRf7WQVQw Arie81 12:34, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

where did Kasharion see the "new one" he put? GunBlazer 20:23, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywVD6hJHCG8

Kaskarion 20:26, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

whoa! i´ll leave it like that, for this once. GunBlazer 20:34, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Smoke's Name
Yea I know MK team chose it. Seriously though, it's lame.

are you czech of something? no honestly, lame or not, it stays like that  Gun  Blazer  17:32, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

The Tremor fatality in MK9 is not very good
This is my opinion. his secret fatality should be his brutality move. Nathan900130 15:56 April 26 2011 (UTC)

Can you people please stop whine about the fatalities not being good? Seriously! This is not a fucking forum! Don't complain about the fatalities being bad here. It is a talk page, it is for information and issues about the page. If you do not like the things ingame, forums exists for that. Alta1r 16:42, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Character relations
Why does it say "Had his neck snapped by Sindel"? Jade had her heart torn out and it only says killed by sindel on hers. Zachc108 05:58, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Then go and change it. Due to that "some" people thought that spoilers are forbidden (what they actually aint) they decided to remove the info. This is a wikia. You are free to edit on, as i agree with you, as Stryker was killed by a heavy straight to the face by Sindel. Alta1r 16:44, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Smoke's age/ height/ weight
Can anyone verify that Smoke's age, height, and weight have official sources? I've never come across this information.

1.Sign your posts

2.leaks. Lots of them  Gun  Blazer  17:28, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Can this be verified beyond just saying "leaks"? I've kept up with every piece of Mortal Kombat information released in the last 20 years and I've never seen heights, weights or ages for any characters not featured in the original Mortal Kombat or Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance.76.101.21.133 21:38, May 6, 2011 (UTC)ErmacMK5

What the F*ck?
I was just on Youtube about leaked information, and I swear to god I heard Smoke said, Taste like chicken!

Can somebody tell what's up with this 'cuz I'm completely lost. Tremorfan94 01:45, May 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * No idea what you're talking about. --Azeruth 01:52, May 13, 2011 (UTC)

Human vs. Enenra
I don't think Smoke is an enenra anymore. His ending says he returned to his human form. I think it should be put that his species in the 2nd Timeline is Human (formerly Enenra) --Azeruth 03:18, May 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * I still stand by this point no one else seems to be listening to, especially considering his ending even says, "His murder avenged, he returned to his human form, remembering nothing of his former life" as in, he was killed, became an Enenra, avenged his murder, and became human again. --Azeruth 19:33, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Playable Secret Kombants
I found a couple videos showing a guy playing as klassic smoke, noob , and reptile which are all secret kombants and i was wondering do we get them after we find them in the challenge tower here is one of the video Smoke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL83K4e2ghI&feature=channel_video_title

24.243.99.93 01:19, May 31, 2011 (UTC) Flapjak

Hacks. People hacked the game to find Skarlet and get bios for Kintaro/Shao Kahn/Goro, etc. --Azeruth 01:23, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Cyber Smoke ?
I found 2 videos showing Cyber Smoke battle cry ( no words ) and 3D Model so I just dont know, here they are

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz1JUCZiQmg&feature=channel_video_title

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79eIblV5Eqo&feature=channel_video_title

24.243.99.93 01:34, June 6, 2011 (UTC) Flapjak

Its not Cyber-Smoke its just Cyrax's character model painted gray the damage and battle cry are both the same Kabalfan620 01:38, June 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's basically just Unit 5 from the Challenge Tower, who is just a gray Cyrax like Kabalfan said. -- AZERUTH 01:45, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, so while were on talk of Cyber Smoke do you guys think we should make a Cyber Smoke page without Noob just by him selve 24.243.99.93 16:19, June 6, 2011 (UTC) Flapjak
 * no. Noobsaibotsig.pngNews_mortal_kombat_skarlet_trailer-11140.jpg 16:57, June 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * no. Noobsaibotsig.pngNews_mortal_kombat_skarlet_trailer-11140.jpg 16:57, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

No, that's stupid.. -- Byakuya TALK 18:18, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

MKII & 3 kostumes?
I was looking at a picture of the Klassic Smoke when he looks behind the tree in the Living Forest.

And I noticed his mask was differant? While it looks more like it could be from MK II, it has the mask of a UMK3 ninja.

Do you think that maybe there will be more Klassic kostumes for the ninjas/female ninjas from other games?

Smokeman140 19:02, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe, but we have to wait. 19:13, June 15, 2011 (UTC)