Board Thread:General MK Discussion/@comment-1084762-20150830085026/@comment-21005855-20150830181429

Dirtbag Daryl wrote:

'''The timeskip is 6 years after the end of Mortal Kombat X. There were some events during those 6 years, of which I'd expect to see in another comic series. Flashbacks are kept to a minimum, with the ones that are there being rightfully and correctly placed in the story.''' '''The roster is big, everyone from MKX is returning minus Quan Chi, Shinnok, Tremor, Jacqui and the guests. 38 characters, 44 with DLC.'''
 * 3. Kitana - had a minor civil war in the Netherrealm against Noob Saibot, got beaten, now a general in his army
 * 4. Liu Kang - had a minor civil war in the Netherrealm against Noob Saibot, got beaten, now a general in his army
 * 9. Kotal Kahn - settled the beef with Earthrealm during timeskip, now in an extremely neutral alliance. now has the Shokans and Tarkatans on his side, fair alliance with Goro.
 * 13. Kai - in White Lotus, part of the new Shaolin Monk duo with Kung Jin
 * 15. Kira - part of the Black Dragon, carries out mercenary missions with Kano, Tremor, Jarek and Tasia.
 * 19. Noob Saibot - took over Netherrealm during timeskip, found Havik and gave him a new body)
 * 29. Takeda - still with SF, but also receiving training from Fujin and the new collective clan from Sub-Zero/Scorp. think Shujinko but not total garbage.
 * 35. Goro - new arms via flesh pits (that are now controlled by Kotal), now a Shokan King and steadily allied with Kotal. discovers and tricks the last clone of Mileena into "attacking Kotal" only for her to be imprisoned later.
 * 36. Tanya- took over and ruled Edenia with Rain for a brief time during the timeskip, overthrown and executed by Sindel.
 * 37. Rain - took over and ruled Edenia with Tanya for a brief time during the timeskip, overthrown and executed by Sindel.
 * 38. Sindel - cleansed from being a revenant, eventually takes back Edenia and becomes a good ally to Earthrealm.

DLC

 * 2. Quan Chi
 * 4. Shang Tsung
 * 5. Shao Kahn
 * 6. Guest - most likely The Terminator

Variations
Now lessened to 2 variations. Making the process simpler as far as choosing a fitting playstyle while also making your options with that playstyle more complex. The movesets would be bigger, but they would be more fitting and focused for their variation. As an example, Scorpion would have one variation primarily about his weapons and combat expertise while the other focuses on his Netherrealm attributes (such as summoning demons, using portals/teleports, hellfire, etc).

Finishers
Mostly the same, though brutalities would be reduced to 3-4 per character. Two that are specific to a variation, one for both, and a secret one. Faction kill can go either way. Fatalities still remain at 2 per person, minus bonus unlockable klassic fatalities.

Factions
Now reworked to fit with the new story elements, the Factions mode is now separated per leader(s) representing their faction(s). The Deadly Alliance - Noob/Havik/Smoke (Netherrealm & Chaosrealm), Kung Lao (White Lotus), Kano (Black Dragon), Sonya and Sindel (Earthrealm & Edenia), Onaga and Hotaru (Armies of the Dragon King & Orderrealm), Kotal and Goro (Outworld). I really like what you did here. Let me go through it.

The Game of Thrones thought process is a good idea and it really puts the players in the action and makes them engage in the story.

The alliance between Scorpion and Sub-Zero is a great idea and only makes perfect sense being that they had something of a truce in MKX. I can only imagine that the next game would have them being just fine with each other.

I like that you have a number of years for the story to take place. Although, I'm wondering if it should be more like 10 instead of 6. If we're going to see real growth within the characters then we might need those extra years to allow growth. Unless you think the characters are able to find their way almost immediately.

I like the big roster. I do have some thoughts on your list though. First, let me ask, why not Tremor?

It was interesting what you did with Kitana and Liu Kang. I didn't expect that. I'd imagine at least Liu Kang being able to defeat Noob Saibot single handedly.

I like that Raiden is only in the story toward the end. It's almost like the player is teased by not having Raiden but then he comes at the end to save the day as his old self.

I really like how engaged in the story you make D'Vorah out to be. Being an informant. It feels as though we might see her as a potential good guy but then shit probably goes down when the Netherrealm gets wind of her being an informant.

Nice transisition for Ferra/Torr, Smoke, Cyrax, Fujin, Kabal, Havik, Hotaru, Mileena, Johnny Cage, Sonya Blade, Kung Lao, and Li Mei. Personally, for Cyrax, I would put the timeskip during the timeskip of MKX then have Sub-Zero work on him for sometime. Purhaps, making him more and more human throughout the years. Also, are Johnny Cage and Sonya Blade back together or are they still on the outs?

Now that is some growth for Kotal Kahn. Being in an alliance with the Shokan and the Tarkata? I'm not sure about that. Is it because the Shokan and Tarkata follow whoever is in charge or does Kotal Kahn have something over them? Shokans are a prideful species and might not be cool with shaming Goro by taking his arms and the Tarkata are destructive. It made sense that the Tarkata followed Mileena but I'm not sure about Kotal Kahn. He's really justified and the Tarkata aren't. But overall, I do like the settlement of Earthrealm.

I don't know about Kai being a part of the White Lotus. Kai was considerably young when he was discovered by Liu Kang before the events of MK4, which took place just 2 years after MK3. I'd assume that because Liu Kang died before he ever met Kai he wasn't enrolled into the Shaolin Monks. With that said, if Kai is to be in the new game: 1. Kai would have to be an older man like in his 30s or 40s and 2. He wouldn't be in the Shaolin Monks. However, if he is going to be in the Shaolin Monks, who discovers him? Plus, I seriously doubt he would be in a duo with Kung Jin because of his age.

Who discovers Kira? Kano? Kabal was the one who discovered her in the original timeline. Being that you have Kabal as a Special Forces agent he wouldn't have.

I like that you're not naming the 3 new characters but giving some sort of indication that there should be something of these types.

Noob Saibot: I'm more just curious as to what you idea is for him. Where has he been? What actually happened to him in the Soulnado in MK9? Why or how is he powerful enough to go up against both Kitana and Liu Kang? And so on.

I like what you did with Takeda but what happens with Shujinko?

Are you saying that Goro is grateful to Kotal Kahn and that's why he's in an alliance with Kotal or are you saying that he would be controlled by Kotal and that's the reason for the alliance?

I also like what you did with Tanya, Rain, and Sindel. However, in MKX (either in the comics or the game, don't quite remember), Kotal Kahn was all about keeping the merged realms together. Are you saying that he changed his mind and had Edenia separated from Outworld? In addition to that, what about the other realms like Zattera, Vaeturnus, and even Kotal's realm?

I'm not sure about Quan Chi, Shang Tsung, or Shao Kahn being DLCs. I think it was too big of a deal for them to be killed off or destroyed for them to come back during MK11. I really like the Terminator being a DLC though.

I agree with you about the intros to the most part. I think they should be limited. Also they should have something in their interactions that reveals something about the characters that would be canon to the game and not just this whole "Uh, Chameleon? Is that you?" BS which just throws the fans of the story off.

I also agree about the variations. Honestly, I thought the variations were fun but I think they're completely unnecessary. Just have alternate costumes and you're set.

When it comes to the finishers: I agree with the Brutalities and the Fatalities. The Faction Fatalities should probably be the same for everyone who is off those Factions. Also, Stage Fatalities should come back. I disagree about the Klassic Fatalities with the exception of them just being DLCs. On a similar note, I think both Hara Kiris and Animalities should come back via DLC.

I agree about the stages and the factions. I would just add Scorpion and Sub-Zero in for Shirai Ryu/Lin Kuei and Kano and Jarek for the Black Dragon.